@fasnix

Servers:

https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/ (@joinjabber)

oder

https://providers.xmpp.net/ (@xmpp_providers)

Clients:

#Conversations auf Android (@daniel)

#Dino oder #Gajim auf Linux (@dino, @gajim)

#Monal auf iOS (@Monal)

#Jabber #XMPP

@maple @solderandchaos

The phone number requirement is only one of three reasons, why I can't use Signal.

2ⁿᵈ: A centralised service in the Amazon cloud doesn't meet my need for #digitalSovereignty.

3ʳᵈ: Lack of first class client for my OS (#Linux on desktop and mobile). I don't use Android or iOS.

For those who want a WA-like experience, I recommend #Quicksy: https://quicksy.im/

#Jabber #XMPP

@joelanman

I'm not sure, if replacing one centralised, walled gardens with another one, is the way to go.

As we are here on the #Fediverse, we all know about the #digitalSovereignty federated service provide to users, organisations and countries.

There are various federated and free #instantMessaging systems around. E.g. I use #Jabber/#XMPP since even before Signal has been created.

@moksh

Yes, #jmpchat @sopranica does offer a phone number and you can send and receive #SMS via #XMPP using their service.

However my bank does not accept such "trunk numbers". They want a real #SIM. #sms4you works with your SIM and any #modem supported by #modemManager and your own #Jabber server:

https://sms4you-team.pages.debian.net/sms4you/

@robertmx @daniel

Some hundreds of groups with some dozens of participants each is no problem at all.

If you like to run #ejabberd by @ejabberd or #prosody by @prosodyim @mattj, just make sure you have a recent version, with support for "XEP-0421: Occupant identifiers for semi-anonymous MUCs". You also want to enable MUC-MAM.

#Jabber #XMPP

@hans06801 @voorstad @guusdk @ionica @xmpp

Hehe, for me it's similar: #Jabber, #email, #phone, #snailmail, #IRL.

I do receive #SMS via #XMPP gateway #sms4you, but only my bank does use it 🙂

@daniel @robertmx

Is your goal to have groups/channels with 1000+ concurrent users?

IIRC, #XMPP had improvements on that use case in recent years, but I'm not sure, how well it works. (What was it? Not sending presence to everyone in the MUC?)

#Jabber

XSF Announcement

We invite everyone to the 27th XMPP #Summit in #Brussels, #Belgium next year again. Get involved in development of the XMPP protocol in person and remote!

https://xmpp.org/2024/11/xmpp-summit-27/

#jabber #chat #interoperability
#rfc #opensource #decentralization
#standards

Alt...

The XMPP Logo

@feb

Du schreibst es selbst: Signal passt und gehört da nicht rein. Es ist ein centralised, walled garden in der Amazon cloud.

Zwar von sympathischeren Menschen betrieben als Mark Z. und mit einem weniger toxischen business model.

Aber mit den Werten des #Fediverse, #digitaleSouveränität, Option des #selfHosting, #freeSoftware Clients, offenen Schnittstellen usw. hat es nichts zu tun.

Lieber #Jabber/#XMPP, Matrix, DeltaChat, Briar uvam. die alle federiert oder dezentral sind.

@argv_minus_one

Note, that @jabberdotorg is on the #fediverse. My #jabber.org account from the old days does still work, but I use it only as a backup, in case my main #XMPP accounts break. Never happened, so far 🙂

Looks like all three of my old 2000s-era #Jabber / #XMPP accounts are gone.

The jabber.org server no longer recognizes my account there. jabber.unoc.net and programmer-art.org don't exist at all.

RIP 🪦

Part 2 – self-host – A video and audio calls alternative with XMPP/Jabber

In the previous blog post (posted 6 January 2025) I’ve talked about the easiest way of having video- and audio-calls without self-hosting. In this post let’s look at one way to self-host an XMPP server for audio and video calls.

Warning : self-hosting services is not for the faint of heart. If you’ve never done this before, I’d suggest to first do some generic reading on self-hosting or maybe ask here or here.

The perhaps easiest way to self-host an XMPP server that can do video- and audio-calls is to use Snikket.

What is needed for this from you as the admin that will self-host ?

• Being able to adjust DNS settings.
• Have your own domain name.
• Being able to rent a server or being able to run it from your home on e.g. an SBC.
• Read the quick-start documentation at the Snikket site.

It’s been a while since I tested self-hosting Snikket but I remember that it was a matter of installing Snikket on a server, then log in to the web interface for the admin user, and then create invites for the users you want to have on-board.

After the user receives an invite they will be asked to install the Snikket app on their Android phone (The Snikket app is a soft-fork of the Conversations app. Note that -afair- installing the Snikket app is not a must. If you know your way around you can stick with the Conversations app) and continue to start using their Snikket user account on your server. And then starting an audio- or video call should be the same as in the previous blog post (posted 6 January 2025).

I’d also like to share some information for people with more experience with self-hosting. This could be difficult but perhaps not impossible 😉

Yunohost (link to their app catalog) is software made by a group of volunteers (Mainly in France it appears) that makes self-hosting easier. After a fresh installation you would be ready to install “apps” from the Yunohost apps catalog.

Some users have asked for the feature that the XMPP software that comes with Yunohost (Metronome) can also do video- and audio-calls. In this Github issue (from May 2020) some users claim that they got it working by changing some settings.

Note, if you scroll down to the last comment you can probably see that someone commented that Metronome has become an app instead of coming with a default Yunohost installation.

Happy chatting 🙂

#jabber #selfHost #selfHosting #xmpp

@Sustainable2050

Moving from one centralized system to another one does not sound right.

As an #EU cititzen, I want #digitalSovereignty both on state level and personally. If I can't run my own server or decide who does it run for me, and where, it's not an option.

(I'm on #Jabber/#XMPP since 2014, btw.)

@kris @reyjrar

I'm curious, how @prose will implement threads.

#Jabber #XMPP #prose

After years of using #IRC and #Jabber for #chatops at $WORK, I'm now using Slack. Here's my hot-take:

Slack is a massive backslide in not only portability/compatibility, but efficiency. Holy ADHD batman, I've never lost conversations in IRC/Jabber. Like, I have no fucking clue where they are.. they're gone.. no.. they're just arbitrarily hard to access because, and again, hot-take, fuck threads.

Info qui: https://www.xmpp-it.net

Spending the afternoon blocking and reporting XMPP spam users 😩

#xmpp #jabber

Relevant EDIT:

There is NO #Berlin #XMPP #Meetup Wednesday 2025-01-08.

Next meetup is 2025-02-12 18 hrs CET in #xHain #makerSpace and #community centre:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/803941786

#GrünbergerStraße 16, #Friedrichshain

We will talk about XMPP #summit and #FOSDEM.

#Jabber #freeSoftware

@sam @EverydayMoggie

Same here. #Debian is pretty IRC-centered and I'm in via a #biboumi #Jabber bridge.

Usenet, usenet, hm, not sure. I remember uucp, uucico and friends for my first emails and newsgroups, before having proper internet 🙂

@beli3ver

Does she use #Monal by @Monal or #SiskinIM by @tigase? Maybe they know how fix MUC notifications?

#Jabber #XMPP

Is there a way to set up a service on a server that listens for incoming XMPP messages and forwards them via ntfy? 📡 My wife uses an iPhone, and unfortunately, she doesn’t receive notifications for group chats. 😅 Looking for a clever workaround to keep her in the loop! 💡

#XMPP #ntfy #Notifications #TechSolutions #iPhone #jabber

Damned, I forgot #ereyesterdays #anniversary.
But better late than never:

Happy 26ᵗʰ #birthday, #Jabber!

#XMPP, the universal protocol for #instantMessaging, #IoT, #socialNetwork, #onlineGaming, #pushNotification and more, has been released on 1999-01-04. It has billions of users today.

#federation #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty #fediverse #chat

Si tenés #xmpp #jabber y te gusta el #heavymetal #trash #metal #rock #rockandroll este es tu canal
xmpp:metaleros@salas.undernet.uy?join

@andre_spruit @ErikJonker

Yes, might be. As Element(X) is not in #Debian and I'm pretty particular about using only software in Debian, I don't have much experience with that specific client.

I use Matrix from my #Jabber clients, mainly #Dino by @dino on mobile (#Mobian) and #Gajim by @gajim on desktop, with an #XMPP bridge, #slidge by @nicoco. Works for me 🙂

@ErikJonker

Government organizations (also political parties, NGOs, etc.) should choose a platform, that they control themselves, i.e. #digitalSovereignty instead of #vendorLockin!

That excludes Whatsapp, but also Signal, Telegram, Threema and other walled gardens.

#Jabber/#XMPP, Matrix and some others are suitable.