snac.sabatino.social is a Fediverse instance that uses the ActivityPub protocol. In other words, users at this host can communicate with people that use software like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, etc. all around the world.
This server runs the snac software and there is no automatic sign-up process.
Servers:
https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/ (@joinjabber)
oder
https://providers.xmpp.net/ (@xmpp_providers)
Clients:
#Conversations auf Android (@daniel)
Wenn ich über XMPP kommunizieren wöllte, welchen Server und welchen Client sollte ich dafür nutzen?
Empfehlungen?
poddery.com is a public #matrix and #xmpp services (we used to provide #diaspora as well, but it is scheduled to be shut down soon). This service is run by volunteers and we raise funds through donations. Would you like to sponsor part of domain renewal charges for 1 year?
gandi.net hiked charges 2-3 times! and it is 29.39 USD (so we moved to Hetzner.de which charges 13.5 Euro for 1 year only - we already host the server with them). @milvus_migrans_govinda already contributed half of it.
@sajith @kannan @badrihippo @badri @ravi @slimmilan @buster Thanks Sajith for the donation! This should cover ~3 months hosting charges.
Since we have to pay 36.8 Euro per month, more donations from others still welcome so we are in a good position for upcoming months as well.
For people who are new, poddery.com offers #matrix and #xmpp services maintained by a community for the public.
@sajith @kannan @badrihippo @badri @ravi @slimmilan @buster #matrix is heavier than #xmpp so diasp.in is much cheaper than poddery.com after matrix was shutdown (36 euro vs 15 euro - durare.org is even cheaper 5 euro). For #mastodon, if you clean up old media cache or history, it could be cheaper.
Ma mère a SiskinIM sur son iPhone, et à priori, il ne marche pas très bien. Est-ce que certain·e·s parmi vous uilisent Monal au quotidien? Juste pour savoir si ça vaut le coup de lui faire changer.
Over the next weeks & months I plan to move the #XMPP users on xmpp.social over from standalone database backend towards LDAP backend.
This will open the domain to offer more services like mail and (maybe) Mastodon with one single account.
Also I plan to bring the domain I bought from another fedi user last year (or so) into action: fedisocial.de
This is `commutiny` - a gaming/social community inspired by "Halt And Catch Fire"
Opening day, today! https://commutiny.live/blog/roughnecks
The phone number requirement is only one of three reasons, why I can't use Signal.
2ⁿᵈ: A centralised service in the Amazon cloud doesn't meet my need for #digitalSovereignty.
3ʳᵈ: Lack of first class client for my OS (#Linux on desktop and mobile). I don't use Android or iOS.
For those who want a WA-like experience, I recommend #Quicksy: https://quicksy.im/
@solderandchaos Exactly. Someone needs to get this across to all those people pushing #xmpp as a better solution. It just isn't for 99% of users. I'm glad it exists but it is NOT an equivalent to those other platforms, not yet anyway. And #Signal offers both the privacy and the ease of use.
If Signal would only stop asking people for a phone number at signup, it would be perfect. A LOT of people just refuse to use a platform if they are required to give a phone number.
I'm not sure, if replacing one centralised, walled gardens with another one, is the way to go.
As we are here on the #Fediverse, we all know about the #digitalSovereignty federated service provide to users, organisations and countries.
There are various federated and free #instantMessaging systems around. E.g. I use #Jabber/#XMPP since even before Signal has been created.
@rom being an #XMPP stat-of-art solution @snikket_im supports OMEMO #e2ee encryption, which is basically the xmpp implementation of Signal's #doubleratchet algorithm. @neil @dino @profanity
Over a year ago, I wrote ”A month using XMPP (using Snikket) for every call and chat”.
For something like 15 months now, Sandra and I have used XMPP via @snikket_im for probably 99.9% of our calls, messages, and video chats, running on an Intel NUC.
We both use the Snikket mobile app, and I also use @dino and @profanity in Linux.
Perhaps a fun holiday / weekend project, if you want family-friendly, self-hosted, #E2EE communications?
https://neilzone.co.uk/2023/08/a-month-using-xmpp-using-snikket-for-every-call-and-chat/
@giacomo è il motivo per cui preferisco e suggerisco #xmpp . Un protocollo estremamente flessibile e collaudato attorno al quale negli ultimi anni sono nate iniziative molto interessanti come @snikket_im
@mattj thank's for your amazing job now i reached the same goal! Only #Xmpp chat for me and my closer contacts (family included) @lpryszcz you have to try @snikket_im
where have you moved your private/group conversations? Sadly @signalapp can't be installed from @fdroidorg. anyone using #matrix? Or #xmpp?
Yes, #jmpchat @sopranica does offer a phone number and you can send and receive #SMS via #XMPP using their service.
However my bank does not accept such "trunk numbers". They want a real #SIM. #sms4you works with your SIM and any #modem supported by #modemManager and your own #Jabber server:
It's in #Debian #backports already!
The following packages are currently pending an upgrade:
`prosody 0.12.5-1~bpo12+1`
Some hundreds of groups with some dozens of participants each is no problem at all.
If you like to run #ejabberd by @ejabberd or #prosody by @prosodyim @mattj, just make sure you have a recent version, with support for "XEP-0421: Occupant identifiers for semi-anonymous MUCs". You also want to enable MUC-MAM.
Anybody having experience running a messaging service based on #xmpp or #matrix for approx. 1000 users?
I did deploy a #synapse (matrix) test install but was not impressed. Especially the federation feature consumed a lot of resources and the client experience was rather disappointing. Joining large rooms took ages even with the latest "fast room join" MSCs. Anybody having better luck with an XMPP deployment?
Hey #XMPP / #Conversations / #Gajim people, I need some help.
Conversations tells me “you are using unverified devices”, namely Gajim on my desktop. It wants to scan a QR code, but I don't see any way to get a QR code from Gajim for Conversations to scan.
What do I do to fix this?
Du schreibst es selbst: Signal passt und gehört da nicht rein. Es ist ein centralised, walled garden in der Amazon cloud.
Zwar von sympathischeren Menschen betrieben als Mark Z. und mit einem weniger toxischen business model.
Aber mit den Werten des #Fediverse, #digitaleSouveränität, Option des #selfHosting, #freeSoftware Clients, offenen Schnittstellen usw. hat es nichts zu tun.
Lieber #Jabber/#XMPP, Matrix, DeltaChat, Briar uvam. die alle federiert oder dezentral sind.
Note, that @jabberdotorg is on the #fediverse. My #jabber.org account from the old days does still work, but I use it only as a backup, in case my main #XMPP accounts break. Never happened, so far 🙂
Part 2 – self-host – A video and audio calls alternative with XMPP/Jabber
In the previous blog post (posted 6 January 2025) I’ve talked about the easiest way of having video- and audio-calls without self-hosting. In this post let’s look at one way to self-host an XMPP server for audio and video calls.
Warning : self-hosting services is not for the faint of heart. If you’ve never done this before, I’d suggest to first do some generic reading on self-hosting or maybe ask here or here.
The perhaps easiest way to self-host an XMPP server that can do video- and audio-calls is to use Snikket.
What is needed for this from you as the admin that will self-host ?
It’s been a while since I tested self-hosting Snikket but I remember that it was a matter of installing Snikket on a server, then log in to the web interface for the admin user, and then create invites for the users you want to have on-board.
After the user receives an invite they will be asked to install the Snikket app on their Android phone (The Snikket app is a soft-fork of the Conversations app. Note that -afair- installing the Snikket app is not a must. If you know your way around you can stick with the Conversations app) and continue to start using their Snikket user account on your server. And then starting an audio- or video call should be the same as in the previous blog post (posted 6 January 2025).
I’d also like to share some information for people with more experience with self-hosting. This could be difficult but perhaps not impossible 😉
Yunohost (link to their app catalog) is software made by a group of volunteers (Mainly in France it appears) that makes self-hosting easier. After a fresh installation you would be ready to install “apps” from the Yunohost apps catalog.
Some users have asked for the feature that the XMPP software that comes with Yunohost (Metronome) can also do video- and audio-calls. In this Github issue (from May 2020) some users claim that they got it working by changing some settings.
Note, if you scroll down to the last comment you can probably see that someone commented that Metronome has become an app instead of coming with a default Yunohost installation.
Happy chatting 🙂
Just over three weeks remain until the 27th #XMPP Summit takes place in Brussels. If you’re planning to attend but haven’t registered yet, please make sure to add your name to the wiki by the end of this week: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Conferences/Summit_27
If you’re an XMPP developer or spec author and weren’t planning to attend, I’d strongly encourage you to reconsider
For those who can’t make it to Brussels but will be in Berlin on Wednesday, February 12th, we’ll be discussing the Summit at that week’s XMPP Meetup
Moving from one centralized system to another one does not sound right.
As an #EU cititzen, I want #digitalSovereignty both on state level and personally. If I can't run my own server or decide who does it run for me, and where, it's not an option.
Has anyone here bridged #XMPP to #Nextcloud #Talk? I want to talk to you if you have been successful with that.
Relevant EDIT:
There is NO #Berlin #XMPP #Meetup Wednesday 2025-01-08.
Next meetup is 2025-02-12 18 hrs CET in #xHain #makerSpace and #community centre:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/803941786
#GrünbergerStraße 16, #Friedrichshain
@EverydayMoggie I still use IRC pretty regularly actually, albeit through an #XMPP bridge (https://irc.cheogram.com/).
@tobykurien Excellent! That would be wonderful to have a #BSD phone. I use #XMPP for phone calls so I can use any operating system. People talk about a privacy respecting phone system, well it doesn't get anymore private or anonymous than using BSD for texts and calling.
I don't mean anonymous calls, I meant a phone OS that is controlled by the user, down to the kernel level.
Is there a way to set up a service on a server that listens for incoming XMPP messages and forwards them via ntfy? 📡 My wife uses an iPhone, and unfortunately, she doesn’t receive notifications for group chats. 😅 Looking for a clever workaround to keep her in the loop! 💡
Damned, I forgot #ereyesterdays #anniversary.
But better late than never:
Happy 26ᵗʰ #birthday, #Jabber!
#XMPP, the universal protocol for #instantMessaging, #IoT, #socialNetwork, #onlineGaming, #pushNotification and more, has been released on 1999-01-04. It has billions of users today.
#federation #freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty #fediverse #chat
Si tenés #xmpp #jabber y te gusta el #heavymetal #trash #metal #rock #rockandroll este es tu canal
xmpp:metaleros@salas.undernet.uy?join
Yes, might be. As Element(X) is not in #Debian and I'm pretty particular about using only software in Debian, I don't have much experience with that specific client.
I use Matrix from my #Jabber clients, mainly #Dino by @dino on mobile (#Mobian) and #Gajim by @gajim on desktop, with an #XMPP bridge, #slidge by @nicoco. Works for me 🙂
Government organizations (also political parties, NGOs, etc.) should choose a platform, that they control themselves, i.e. #digitalSovereignty instead of #vendorLockin!
That excludes Whatsapp, but also Signal, Telegram, Threema and other walled gardens.
Un altro anno di #XmppHappyHours si è concluso, beccatevi il recap!
https://www.xmpp-it.net/2024/12/31/Federico/secondo-anno-di-happy-hour/
Ci vediamo nel 2025
@wpn (support) #xmpp webchat turned #anonymous
If you are interested, maybe curious or have any xmpp-related question, feel free to come by for some chit-chat.
More info at: https://blog.woodpeckersnest.space/2025/01/03/roughnecks/anonymous-support-webchat/
Sistema decentralizzato
L'architettura di XMPP è molto simile a quella della posta elettronica. Chiunque può installare il proprio server XMPP e scambiare messaggi e chiamate audio / video senza dover utilizzare un server centrale.
Standard aperto
L'Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) ha formalizzato le specifiche XMPP per la messaggistica istantanea (definite negli RFC 6120 e RFC 6121). Non sono previste royalty per l'implementazione di queste specifiche.
La comunità degli utenti XMPP si riunisce nel Gruppo (MUC - Multi User Chat) creato al seguente indirizzo:
xmpp-it@conference.xmpp-it.net
Info su come registrare un nuovo account XMPP a questo indirizzo:
https://www.xmpp-it.net/2023/11/16/lorenzo/come-aprire-un-account-su-server-pubblico/
Abbiamo anche un Git per condividere, creare e sviluppare software, configurazioni e documenti riguardanti il protocollo XMPP. Trovate il nostro Git qui:
Ultimo nato il wiki per la documentazione in lingua Italiana:
Hey gente, con @bluoltremauri, abbiamo creato una MUC(stanza) su XMPP.
Si chiama "GUUf - Gruppo Utenti Unix del Fediverso".
Chiacchieriamo di sistemi operativi unix-like, si condividono articoli, esperienze, tutorial... insomma un bel po' di roba 😅 (anche se siamo in pochi per ora).
È aperto a tuttз, anche e soprattutto principiantз.
Se volete passare a trovarci siete benvenutз!
xmpp:fedilug-italia@conference.magicbroccoli.de?join===